TASMA
Two Meter Area Spectrum Management Association
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Orange, CA 92868-3834

Technical Committee Meeting Minutes
September 24, 2002
@
Marie Calendar's Restaurant
2300 E. Foothill Blvd.
Pasadena, CA 92692

Technical Committee Attendees: Alex Groza (WB6DTR)
Bob Dengler (NO6B) -- Ex Officio Member
Burt I. Weiner (K6OQK) -- Chairman
Gary Belda (K6ENS)
Howard Brown (KG6GI)
Matt Lechliter (W6KGB)
Mike Marin (KF6RQV) -- Secretary Guest Attendees:

Art Richey (W6ARJ) Baltasar Cervantes (KG6ESC) Charles Laudan (KE6SKM) Dan Avila (KE6TOI) Darren Rumas (N6VGU) David Ditlow (K6LDO) Dennis Keizer (W6DEK) Don Williams (KD6UVT) Ed Slaughter (WU6I) Ernest Yuen Jr. (K6UBI) Gram Clark (K6RIF) Gregory Pitta (KF6DBJ) Jack Halem (K6DLX) Jeff Richardson (W6JJR)

Jerry Kerns (K6FN) Jim Arnett (W6JEA) Jim Eason (AD6IJ) John Davidson (KC6TFS) Mark West (W6MW) Miguel A. Ramirez (NH2R) Pat Finke (KC6ACL) Roger Ham (W0MAE) Ron Braley (KE6RYX) Sanchez Miguel (KC6BEU) Scott Press (N6SAP) Steve Mankowski (AD6XK) Wayne Curley (WA6NRB) Whit Priest Jr. (KJ6MJ)

Reference: Agenda For Meeting

All amateurs who had scheduled business before the technical committee were notified of the meeting by e-mail.

Technical Committee Chairman, Burt Weiner, acted as facilitator for this meeting.

1. Call To Order and Introduction of members and guests started at 6:55pm.
2. It was informally agreed that easy items in the agenda would be addressed first and contentions items last.
3. Technical Committee Chairman, Burt Weiner, read the ground rules for the meeting:

   Ground Rules: All matters brought before the TASMA Technical Committee will be decided solely on the agenda item’s technical merits.

   Only two representatives per organization will be allowed to come to the table to speak, if necessary, regarding that group’s matter before the TASMA Technical Committee.

   The Technical Committee recommends that any group that has an agenda item before the committee attends the Technical Committee and be prepared to address any possible questions from the Technical Committee.

   In the event that pertinent information is missing and cannot be presented at the meeting, the Technical Committee Chairman and/or members may choose to table a particular agenda item for any reason to next meeting.

   In the event that committee-meeting observer/s become disruptive, they will be asked to leave. If disruptive behavior continues it is the option of the Technical Committee Chairman and/or members to terminate the meeting or carry over the item.

4. Review of the July 20, 2002 T.C. meeting minutes. There was a correction offered by Don Williams (KD6UVT) with respect to item 15 of the minutes: W6TJ did not intended to present an interference case against K6DLX, but an issue of de-sensing, and its opposition was based on the potential for future issues during emergency situations. With that correction the minutes were approved by a vote of 5-0 (motion by Howard (KG6GI) and second by Matt (W6KGB)).
5. KD6RSQ (145.300-) Ramona (original agenda item 4). Submitted an updated RFC changing the call sign from WA6QQW to KD6RSQ. A motion to approve the RFC change was passed by a vote of 5-0 (motion by Matt (W6KGB) and second by Howard (KG6GI)).
6. KE6TOI (146.940-) Newbury Park (original agenda item 10). Test coordination expired without problems. A motion to grant Final Coordination was passed on vote of 5-0 (motion by Howard (KG6GI) and second by Alex (WB6DTR)).
7. WA6NRB (147.120+) Glendale (original agenda item 12). RFC update in reply to a TC notification. Based on the fact that some of the coordination parameters have changed, a motion to grant a six-month test coordination was passed by a vote of 6-0 (motion by Matt (W6KGB) and second by Alex (WB6DTR)).
8. N6SAP (147.435/146.400) Saddle Peak (original agenda item 13). Submitted an updated RFC changing repeater id from W6NUT to N6SAP. A motion to approve the RFC change was passed by a vote of 6-0 (motion by Alex (WB6DTR) and second by Matt (W6KGB)).
9. N3MBN (146.610-) San Buenaventura (original agenda item 14). Submitted an updated RFC changing repeater ID from N6XGH to N3MBN. The RFC update was approved by a vote of 6-0 (motion by Alex (WB6DTR) and second by Matt (W6KGB)).
10. NH2R (145.440-) Palomar Mountain (original agenda item 6). Reviews of the status of the interference complaint from AD6XK against NH2R. All the changes requested to the NH2R repeater system were implemented and the system is now using a three element beam directed to San Diego; however the repeater system is not able to cover its intended area, and is being overpowered by AD6XK in the San Diego’s area. In general good progress has been made, but it does not satisfies both groups. Therefore a motion to recommend that both groups communicate and work together to solve the problem, recommended to NH2R to move the original and/or the new antenna to the other side of the tower and experiment with the positioning to null his signal to Los Angeles and regain its cover area, also asking both groups to keep the Technical Committee informed by email of the progress, and tabling this item for the next TC meeting to evaluate progress was passed by a vote of 5-0 with Mike (KF6RQV) abstaining (motion by Howard (KG6GI) and second by Alex (WB6DTR)).
11. AD6XK (145.440-) Sunset Ridge (original agenda item 5). Reviews of the status of the interference complaint from NH2R against AD6XK. The previous item and this are considered to be the same problem by the TC, and the secretary was ask to send copies of the complaints to both parties. A motion to link the previous item and this one and table it until the next meeting was passed by a vote of 5-0 with Mike (KF6RQV) abstaining (motion by Howard (KG6GI) and second by Alex (WB6DTR)).
12. N6NHP (146.025+) San Clemente (original agenda item 7). Reviews of the status of the interference complaint from WB6ZTY against N6NHP. There were no members from the N6NHP group presents at the meeting. A motion to send a certificate letter to the N6NHP trustee stipulating the following:
    • Indicating that a interference complaint has been filed against his repeater system
    • Copies of the ICR-01 (interference form) should be included.
    • Recommending that power be cut in half while the problem is being resolved.
    • Depending on the status of the paper files, asking for an updated RFC.
    • Asking to please resolve the interference and report back to TASMA TC in 30 days.

    The motion passed with a vote of 6-0 (motion by Howard (KG6GI) and second by Alex (WB6DTR)).

13. K6DLX (146.265+) Willits Ridge (original agenda item 8). Interference complaint from W6TJ against K6DLX. The requested ICR-01 was not submitted by W6TJ, because there is no interference at this moment. W6TJ expresses concerns about the potential coordination of K6DLX, and requested that if coordination is granted, it should be based on the current parameters of the K6DLX repeater. This item was closed due to the lack of ICR-01 form, but their concerns were taking into account for the next item.
14. K6DLX (146.265+) Willits Ridge (original agenda item 9). Review of test coordination. During this test coordination several changes, and so several partial RFC forms has been received by the Technical Committee. At this point there are no pending issues and there is no interference being produced by this repeater system. A motion to grant Final Coordination, pending a complete RFC package, collecting in a single package all the different RFC pieces submitted by K6DLX, and indicating 25 watts to the feed line was pass by a vote of 6-0 (motion by Howard (KG6GI) and second by Matt (W6KGB)).
15. K6LDO (147.030+) Bel Air (original agenda item 11). Reviews of the status of the interference complaint from K6RIF against K6LDO. A motion recommending K6LDO to do the following:
    • Reduce the ERP to a maximum of 45 watts.
    • Reduce power by using a directional antenna away from Oceanside and San Diego
    • Notify the Technical Committee when the changes are made.

    And rescheduling this item for a review in the next TC meeting was passed by a vote of 6-0 (motion by Mike (KF6RQV) and second by Matt (W6KGB)).

16. New Business:
• Jim Eason (AD6IJ) raised a complaint on comments made by Bob (NO6B) on an email message, about AD6IJ measurements on the W6JBT repeater system.
• An ICR-01 was received from Scott Press (N6SAP) against AA6RJ (147.420/146.475).
• Dan Avila (KE6TOI) asked a question about satellite receivers and/or repeaters.
17. Adjournment by a motion of Howard (KG6GI) and second by Alex (WB6DTR), at 10:01pm.

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